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May 24, 2006

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Amit Sharma

First, this is my personal opinion but I do work at nsoftware and am closely associated to RSSBus. So please dont cry wolf at this being biased - maybe it is.

You hit the bull's eye to what the real problem with web services are - "pointy-haired bosses who love their lego-mind storms via XML" - maybe we can do without that.

RSS is just a simpler XML format, XML is still the way to go because of transparency and readability - some of the current WS-* standards completey demolish that notion. As they stand now they might as well have been binary - it would be just as readable.

Web services aside there is another thing that you mention here which is very relavant - means of communication. The *pub-sub* model is not just a replacement to the *request-response* cycle, it is also a replacement to a the *push* model. (a.k.a email - which is annoyingly in your face). It's not a coincidence that we read our feeds, just as we used to read email in its early days - at out convenience.

Michael K. Campbell

Amit,

I think pointy-haired-bosses and the 'whole corporate thing' may actually be RSSBus' biggest worry. I know developers are hip to the idea of consuming software as services (with published definitions/interfaces), but in the limited experience I've had at corporations, developers are rarely allowed to interact with software this way. Instead, pointy-hairs from multiple depts with a couple of token/key developers will meet and talk about business needs ad naseum. (My aversion here isn't to business needs/rules - it's to all the wasted time, politics, stupidity, etc.)

And, of course, it's always during these planning/integration meetings that some aspiring pointy-haired boss (who reads CIO magazine or something) 'verifies' that the new solution will use ... AJAX, XML, podcasts, and any other 'cutting edge' tech-term they can come up with (which, might be a benefit to RSSBus - just mention blogging to this dolt and you've got an instant win *grin*).

But, that's not to say that the underlying idea isn't cool. And frankly, I hope that some day we'll get closer to that. (But I think nsoftware possibly has a long road ahead of them - RSSBus makes sense, but so does UDDI. More importantly though, I think we've now hit the point where organizations should all have UDDI server describing their services/endpoints and all that jazz - but I don't think most corporate devs are seeing ANY of that - because any time they need to integrate, the have to do it the old fashioned way: in a meeting, with pointy-hairs, and devs from the other dept...)

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